Comments on: Safe Haven Case and a Just-In-Case Announcement http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou A blog for and about parents who have placed a child for adoption. Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:23:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou/comment-page-1#comment-3402 John Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:02:55 +0000 http://birth-first.www.adoptionblogs.com/2007/03/15/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou#comment-3402 Jenna, from your comment above, I had the impression that this law was interpreted and administered by the fire marshall. I didn't know you were related to the fire marshall, and I didn't mean to insult you. I do think that this particular safe haven law is poorly done.<br /> <br /> John Jenna, from your comment above, I had the impression that this law was interpreted and administered by the fire marshall. I didn’t know you were related to the fire marshall, and I didn’t mean to insult you. I do think that this particular safe haven law is poorly done.

John

]]> By: Jenna Hatfield http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou/comment-page-1#comment-3401 Jenna Hatfield Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:24:23 +0000 http://birth-first.www.adoptionblogs.com/2007/03/15/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou#comment-3401 John; by insulting the fire marshall, you are thus insulting my personal family. That said, it's not the fire marshall's fault, but the fault of a system that hasn't thought every possible scenario through when it comes to this topic. Fire departments were chosen as a safe place because they are, in fact, a safe place. John; by insulting the fire marshall, you are thus insulting my personal family. That said, it’s not the fire marshall’s fault, but the fault of a system that hasn’t thought every possible scenario through when it comes to this topic. Fire departments were chosen as a safe place because they are, in fact, a safe place.

]]> By: John http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou/comment-page-1#comment-3400 John Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:12:49 +0000 http://birth-first.www.adoptionblogs.com/2007/03/15/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou#comment-3400 This is so strange. So Child Protective Services has a baby. They don't know if it was snatched, taken charge of by some 'good samaratin' and dropped off because they surely know better than mom what needs to be done, or dropped off by mom. <br /> <br /> What do they do with this child? Any permenant plan could be undone by mom, or perhaps dad surfacing. How would they place the child for adoption? The court has to be sure that the birth parents have consented to the plan. How can any other member of the birth family ask to parent the child?<br /> <br /> It sounds like the fire marshall should stick to fighting fires. He knows not what he is doing. Perhaps a brainectomy is in order. This is a good idea done very badly.<br /> <br /> John This is so strange. So Child Protective Services has a baby. They don’t know if it was snatched, taken charge of by some ‘good samaratin’ and dropped off because they surely know better than mom what needs to be done, or dropped off by mom.

What do they do with this child? Any permenant plan could be undone by mom, or perhaps dad surfacing. How would they place the child for adoption? The court has to be sure that the birth parents have consented to the plan. How can any other member of the birth family ask to parent the child?

It sounds like the fire marshall should stick to fighting fires. He knows not what he is doing. Perhaps a brainectomy is in order. This is a good idea done very badly.

John

]]> By: Jan Baker http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou/comment-page-1#comment-3399 Jan Baker Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:59:59 +0000 http://birth-first.www.adoptionblogs.com/2007/03/15/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou#comment-3399 I question too the premise that babies left at safe havens were doomed to be abandoned unsafely. They could be safely relinquished to adoption or to other family members - no one knows for certain. I question too the premise that babies left at safe havens were doomed to be abandoned unsafely. They could be safely relinquished to adoption or to other family members – no one knows for certain.

]]> By: Jenna Hatfield http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou/comment-page-1#comment-3398 Jenna Hatfield Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:15:05 +0000 http://birth-first.www.adoptionblogs.com/2007/03/15/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou#comment-3398 Jan, sad but true. (I've been bebopping through websites today.)<br /> <br /> Florida's Fire Marshal site links to this one which is Florida's program: http://www.asafehavenfornewborns.com<br /> <br /> And under the FAQ's is this hideousness:<br /> <br /> <blockquote>9-What will they ask the person leaving the baby?<br /> • Be assured – No one is going to try to find out who you are - The person leaving the baby is not required to answer any questions.<br /> • A Safe Haven for Newborns or the people at the facility where the baby is left may ask some medical history questions that will be placed in the baby’s records, which may help answer future health questions. Also, referral information from “Safe Haven” is available for the parent to speak with someone about what they have been through and / or to receive medical attention.<br /> • The purpose of this program is to save the lives of newborns. Therefore, the premise is that a newborn left in safety without medical records is preferable to an unsafe abandonment resulting in an almost sure death.</blockquote><br /> <br /> Sigh. Jan, sad but true. (I’ve been bebopping through websites today.)

Florida’s Fire Marshal site links to this one which is Florida’s program: http://www.asafehavenfornewborns.com

And under the FAQ’s is this hideousness:

9-What will they ask the person leaving the baby?
• Be assured – No one is going to try to find out who you are – The person leaving the baby is not required to answer any questions.
• A Safe Haven for Newborns or the people at the facility where the baby is left may ask some medical history questions that will be placed in the baby’s records, which may help answer future health questions. Also, referral information from “Safe Haven” is available for the parent to speak with someone about what they have been through and / or to receive medical attention.
• The purpose of this program is to save the lives of newborns. Therefore, the premise is that a newborn left in safety without medical records is preferable to an unsafe abandonment resulting in an almost sure death.

Sigh.

]]> By: Jan Baker http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou/comment-page-1#comment-3397 Jan Baker Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:02:45 +0000 http://birth-first.www.adoptionblogs.com/2007/03/15/safe-haven-case-and-a-just-in-case-annou#comment-3397 Jenna, some of the promos for safe havens tout, "no questions asked."<br /> Yet, if no identification needs to be shown, how can a safe haven ever know that the person surrendering the baby is the mother? THAT is a huge problem in my view.<br /> <br /> Makes no difference if the fire dept. has experience, there are generally no requirements for any proof as far as I know. Jenna, some of the promos for safe havens tout, “no questions asked.”
Yet, if no identification needs to be shown, how can a safe haven ever know that the person surrendering the baby is the mother? THAT is a huge problem in my view.

Makes no difference if the fire dept. has experience, there are generally no requirements for any proof as far as I know.

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