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		<title>By: JudyK</title>
		<link>http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/if-you-need-evidence-of-the-lack-of-prog/comment-page-1#comment-2112</link>
		<dc:creator>JudyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, Beth.  I&#039;m very sorry for what you&#039;ve gone through.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that young mothers are also deserving of their children.   I&#039;ve seen some very wonderful young mothers.  The age of the mother doesn&#039;t make her a great mother or a poor one, and I honestly don&#039;t understand why some in the general public don&#039;t understand that.  I can understand your anger and I realize that it wasn&#039;t directed personally at me.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for understanding my comments.  &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s all good. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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~ Judy&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, Beth.  I&#8217;m very sorry for what you&#8217;ve gone through.</p>
<p>I agree that young mothers are also deserving of their children.   I&#8217;ve seen some very wonderful young mothers.  The age of the mother doesn&#8217;t make her a great mother or a poor one, and I honestly don&#8217;t understand why some in the general public don&#8217;t understand that.  I can understand your anger and I realize that it wasn&#8217;t directed personally at me.  </p>
<p>Thanks for understanding my comments.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all good. <img src='http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>~ Judy</p>
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		<title>By: beth1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy,&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;re right we should all support&lt;br /&gt;
each other.&lt;br /&gt;
And derogatory personal opinions are&lt;br /&gt;
just that.&lt;br /&gt;
Every one has their own reason for &lt;br /&gt;
their opinions.&lt;br /&gt;
Ages of parents do bring different&lt;br /&gt;
strengths and weaknesses to the table,&lt;br /&gt;
all which can be dealt with in some way.&lt;br /&gt;
I guess the reason for my negative and &lt;br /&gt;
probably hurtful comment is because&lt;br /&gt;
I was separated from my family at birth&lt;br /&gt;
for the opinions that the people&lt;br /&gt;
above shared.&lt;br /&gt;
These opinions hurt my family, &lt;br /&gt;
when it wasn&#039;t necessary.&lt;br /&gt;
It is very sad.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am a 46 yr old mom with a 14 yr old son,&lt;br /&gt;
and could be a grandma any day if my 23 yr old daughter, &lt;br /&gt;
or my son for that matter&lt;br /&gt;
decide to take that route.&lt;br /&gt;
If they do, I will be one of the &lt;br /&gt;
proudest and most happy grandmas &lt;br /&gt;
you&#039;ve ever seen.&lt;br /&gt;
Life is to be celebrated, &lt;br /&gt;
no matter how old you are. &lt;br /&gt;
Please forgive me for my anger towards this opinion, it is so dificult for me &lt;br /&gt;
not to argue in some way to try and change this outlook that young mothers are not deserving of their born children, &lt;br /&gt;
simply because of their age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy,<br />
You&#8217;re right we should all support<br />
each other.<br />
And derogatory personal opinions are<br />
just that.<br />
Every one has their own reason for <br />
their opinions.<br />
Ages of parents do bring different<br />
strengths and weaknesses to the table,<br />
all which can be dealt with in some way.<br />
I guess the reason for my negative and <br />
probably hurtful comment is because<br />
I was separated from my family at birth<br />
for the opinions that the people<br />
above shared.<br />
These opinions hurt my family, <br />
when it wasn&#8217;t necessary.<br />
It is very sad.</p>
<p>I am a 46 yr old mom with a 14 yr old son,<br />
and could be a grandma any day if my 23 yr old daughter, <br />
or my son for that matter<br />
decide to take that route.<br />
If they do, I will be one of the <br />
proudest and most happy grandmas <br />
you&#8217;ve ever seen.<br />
Life is to be celebrated, <br />
no matter how old you are. <br />
Please forgive me for my anger towards this opinion, it is so dificult for me <br />
not to argue in some way to try and change this outlook that young mothers are not deserving of their born children, <br />
simply because of their age.</p>
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		<title>By: JudyK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JudyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t think we need to go and be biased the other way, Beth1962.  That makes us just as bad as those who say the derogatory things about young mothers and young grandmothers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Of course, I say this as a 47 year old mother to a 6 year old.  Young, old -- we bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table.  Not better, just different; that&#039;s all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What I say, though, as a friend of mine who is a PROFESSOR and is younger than I am and will become a grandmother in March -- what I said to her yes, young (18, I think) pregnant daughter is what anyone &lt;strong&gt;should&lt;/strong&gt; say in the situation -- Congratulations!  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mom had her children young and still went to college and got her Master&#039;s degree, provided a great life for her kids and is a professor at a university now.  While her daughter is young, I have a feeling she might follow in her mother&#039;s NON-white trash footsteps.  They&#039;re admirable, hard-working, ethical people who I&#039;m proud to know.  They&#039;re young parents, but like I said -- young or old first time parents -- neither is better or worse, just different.  There are pros and cons to each, and ALL -- young, old, and in-between -- all should be celebrated.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Parenting is hard enough as it is.  I wish we would all support each other instead of trying to tear each other down.  It not only hurts &lt;strong&gt;us&lt;/strong&gt;, but I think in the long run, it hurts our kids.  How sad is &lt;strong&gt;that?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think we need to go and be biased the other way, Beth1962.  That makes us just as bad as those who say the derogatory things about young mothers and young grandmothers.</p>
<p>Of course, I say this as a 47 year old mother to a 6 year old.  Young, old &#8212; we bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table.  Not better, just different; that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>What I say, though, as a friend of mine who is a PROFESSOR and is younger than I am and will become a grandmother in March &#8212; what I said to her yes, young (18, I think) pregnant daughter is what anyone <strong>should</strong> say in the situation &#8212; Congratulations!  </p>
<p>Mom had her children young and still went to college and got her Master&#8217;s degree, provided a great life for her kids and is a professor at a university now.  While her daughter is young, I have a feeling she might follow in her mother&#8217;s NON-white trash footsteps.  They&#8217;re admirable, hard-working, ethical people who I&#8217;m proud to know.  They&#8217;re young parents, but like I said &#8212; young or old first time parents &#8212; neither is better or worse, just different.  There are pros and cons to each, and ALL &#8212; young, old, and in-between &#8212; all should be celebrated.  </p>
<p>Parenting is hard enough as it is.  I wish we would all support each other instead of trying to tear each other down.  It not only hurts <strong>us</strong>, but I think in the long run, it hurts our kids.  How sad is <strong>that?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: beth1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a long long way to go&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just remember, &lt;br /&gt;
people who say these ugly things&lt;br /&gt;
say them out of jealousy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They say these things because for &lt;br /&gt;
some reason &lt;br /&gt;
they think they are more deserving.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They can&#039;t do what these &lt;br /&gt;
&quot;little white trash ghetto girls living in trailers&quot; have done.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Several of my highly educated and financially secure friends, who have college educated children with respectable careers are now grandparents under the age of 50. &lt;br /&gt;
(barely lol)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
despite their young age&lt;br /&gt;
and comfortable salary&lt;br /&gt;
they want the stinkin Grandma coupon too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having children in your 20&#039;s is &lt;br /&gt;
very normal and very healthy.&lt;br /&gt;
Any OBGYN will suggest that you shouldn&#039;t &lt;br /&gt;
wait to have kids until you are too old.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you ask me :)&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s better that your Grandma be &lt;br /&gt;
40 something - instead of your mom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a long long way to go</p>
<p>Just remember, <br />
people who say these ugly things<br />
say them out of jealousy.</p>
<p>They say these things because for <br />
some reason <br />
they think they are more deserving.</p>
<p>They can&#8217;t do what these <br />
&#8220;little white trash ghetto girls living in trailers&#8221; have done.</p>
<p>Several of my highly educated and financially secure friends, who have college educated children with respectable careers are now grandparents under the age of 50. <br />
(barely lol)</p>
<p>despite their young age<br />
and comfortable salary<br />
they want the stinkin Grandma coupon too.</p>
<p>Having children in your 20&#8217;s is <br />
very normal and very healthy.<br />
Any OBGYN will suggest that you shouldn&#8217;t <br />
wait to have kids until you are too old.</p>
<p>If you ask me <img src='http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
It&#8217;s better that your Grandma be <br />
40 something &#8211; instead of your mom.</p>
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		<title>By: ladyofmoonlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladyofmoonlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow....  that&#039;s about all I can say...  Granted I&#039;ve had the &quot;yes, racism does still exist!&quot; conversation enough times that I ought to realize this sort of bigotry extends elsewhere.  Oddly enough, my upper class/overeducated MIL is 50, my husband will be 39 when our son is 18, college age, and it&#039;s highly possible we&#039;ll be grandparents in our 40&#039;s.  Stupid HS and adoption agencies, letting us trailer park/white trashies adopt children.  Don&#039;t they know age means absolutely everything?  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry for the sarcasm, but yeesh!  Judgmental jerks :(  And yes, agreed, society as a whole has a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.  that&#8217;s about all I can say&#8230;  Granted I&#8217;ve had the &#8220;yes, racism does still exist!&#8221; conversation enough times that I ought to realize this sort of bigotry extends elsewhere.  Oddly enough, my upper class/overeducated MIL is 50, my husband will be 39 when our son is 18, college age, and it&#8217;s highly possible we&#8217;ll be grandparents in our 40&#8217;s.  Stupid HS and adoption agencies, letting us trailer park/white trashies adopt children.  Don&#8217;t they know age means absolutely everything?  </p>
<p>Sorry for the sarcasm, but yeesh!  Judgmental jerks <img src='http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   And yes, agreed, society as a whole has a long way to go.</p>
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